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City of Saint Paul

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Meeting Minutes

City Council

Council President Mitra Jalali

Vice President HwaJeong Kim

Councilmember Anika Bowie

Councilmember Cheniqua Johnson

Councilmember Saura Jost

Councilmember Rebecca Noecker

Councilmember Nelsie Yang

Wednesday, April 10, 2024

ROLL CALL

3:30 PM

Council Chambers - 3rd Floor

Meeting started at 3:31 PM

5 -

Present

Councilmember Rebecca Noecker, Councilmember Mitra Jalali,

Councilmember Nelsie Yang, Councilmember Anika Bowie and

Councilmember Cheniqua Johnson

2 - Councilmember HwaJeong Kim and Councilmember Saura Jost

Absent

COMMUNICATIONS & RECEIVE/FILE

Letter from the Department of Safety and Inspections declaring 291 Stinson

Street a nuisance property. (For notification purposes only; public hearings will

be scheduled at a later date if necessary.)

CO 24-18

Received and Filed

Approving the 2024 Fund 200 - City Grants for the Department of Emergency

Management to more accurately record expenditures for the Urban Area

Security Initiative (UASI) Grant.

AO 24-24

Received and Filed

Amending CDBG Project Budgets: Funding for 850 Maryland Avenue East

(iHeart Pho) project.

AO 24-28

AO 24-30

Received and Filed

Authorizing the Police Department to reallocate the 2024 Special Fund Budget

for the Department of Justice 2020 Comprehensive Opioid & Stimulant

Program (COSSAP) in the amount of $15,000.

Received and Filed

Authorizing the Police Department to reallocate its MN DPS 2022 SHSP

Bomb Grant budget to more accurately record expenditures meeting capital

criteria.

AO 24-31

Received and Filed

CONSENT AGENDA

Items listed under the Consent Agenda will be enacted by one motion with no separate

discussion. If discussion on an item is desired, the item will be removed from the

Consent Agenda for separate consideration.

Approval of the Consent Agenda

Council President Jalali stated that Item 20 would be taken separately and moved

approval.

Consent Agenda adopted as amended

5 -

Yea:

Councilmember Noecker, Councilmember Jalali, Councilmember Yang,

Councilmember Bowie and Councilmember Johnson

Nay:

2 - Councilmember Kim and Councilmember Jost

Absent:

Authorizing the Department of Planning and Economic Development to apply

for the Metropolitan Council Livable Communities Demonstration Account

Pre-Development Grant Funds for projects at 0-1036 Marshall Avenue (Rondo

Community Land Trust) and 1570 White Bear Avenue (Gloryville), which will

include indemnification obligations.

Adopted

Approving the City’s cost of providing Collection of Vacant Building

Registration fees billed during March 29 to November 14, 2023, and setting

date of Legislative Hearing for May 7, 2024 and City Council public hearing for

June 26, 2024 to consider and levy the assessments against individual

properties. (File No. VB2408, Assessment No. 248807)

Adopted

Approving the City’s cost of providing Securing and/or Emergency Boarding

services during December 2023, and setting date of Legislative Hearing for

May 7, 2024 and City Council public hearing for June 26, 2024 to consider and

levy the assessments against individual properties. (File No. J2408B,

Assessment No. 248107)

Adopted

Approving the City’s cost of providing Collection of Fire Certificate of

Occupancy fees billed during December 21 to 22, 2023, and setting date of

Legislative Hearing for May 7, 2024 and City Council public hearing for June

26, 2024 to consider and levy the assessments against individual properties.

(File No. CRT2407, Assessment No. 248206)

Adopted

Approving the City’s cost of providing Excessive Use of Inspection or

Abatement services billed during October 23 to November 21, 2023, and

setting date of Legislative Hearing for May 7, 2024 and City Council public

hearing for June 26, 2024 to consider and levy the assessments against

individual properties. (File No. J2408E, Assessment No. 248307)

Adopted

Approving the City’s cost of providing Graffiti Removal services during

November 21 to December 8, 2023, and setting date of Legislative Hearing for

May 7, 2024 and City Council public hearing for June 26, 2024 to consider and

levy the assessments against individual properties. (File No. J2406P,

Assessment No. 248405)

RES 24-458

RES 24-459

RES 24-512

Adopted

Approving the City’s cost of providing Removal of Diseased and/or Dangerous

Tree(s) during January 2024, and setting date of Legislative Hearing for May 7,

2024 and City Council public hearing for June 26, 2024 to consider and levy

the assessments against individual properties. (File No. 2406T, Assessment

No. 249005)

Adopted

Supporting a Job Creation Fund application in connection with Simpli-Fi

Automation Inc. for a project proposed at 370 Wabasha Street North (District

17, Ward 2).

Adopted

Approving a Comprehensive Plan amendment for The Heights.

RES 24-521

RES 24-522

RES 24-529

Adopted

Changing the rate of pay for Park Security Officer, in EG 12.

Laid over to April 17, 2024

Authorizing the Fire Department to apply for the 2023 Staffing for Adequate

Fire and Emergency Response (SAFER) grant in the amount of $4,623,953

from the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) to hire 12

additional firefighters.

Adopted

Approving the addition of the Liquor Outdoor Service Area (Patio) and

Gambling Location license to existing Liquor on Sale - 100 seats or less and

Liquor on Sale-Sunday licenses for Compass45 Hospitality LLC d/b/a

Courtyard by Marriott (License ID# 20230000956) for the premises located at

150 Smith Avenue North.

RES 24-531

Adopted

Authorizing the Fire Department to apply for the 2023 Fire Prevention and

Safety Grant in the amount of $170,000 from the Federal Emergency

Management (FEMA) to purchase training props and supplies for the

community risk reduction program Project Safe Haven.

RES 24-534

Min 24-12

Adopted

Approving the minutes of the Saint Paul City Council meetings of February 7,

14, 21, and 28, 2024.

Adopted

Authorizing the City to enter a lease amendment with the Board of Water

Commissioners.

RES 24-502

RES 24-514

Adopted

Authorizing the Department of Parks and Recreation to accept state bonding

funds and enter into a grant agreement, which includes an indemnification

clause.

Adopted

FOR DISCUSSION

Authorizing the City to enter into a detour agreement with the State of

Minnesota, acting through its Commissioner of Transportation for the Trunk

Highway 51 - Snelling Avenue project from St. Clair Avenue to Grand Avenue.

(laid over from April 3, 2024)

RES 24-211

Reuben Collins from the Department of Public Works gave a staff report.

Council President Jalali moved approval.

Adopted

5 -

Yea:

Nay:

Councilmember Noecker, Councilmember Jalali, Councilmember Yang,

Councilmember Bowie and Councilmember Johnson

2 - Councilmember Kim and Councilmember Jost

Absent:

ORDINANCES

An ordinance is a city law enacted by the City Council. It is read at three separate

council meetings and becomes effective after passage by the Council and 30 days

after publication in the Saint Paul Pioneer Press. Public hearings on ordinances are

generally held at the second reading.

Final Adoption

Amending Chapter 63 of the Legislative Code pertaining to electric vehicle

charging infrastructure in surface parking lots.

Ord 24-5

Council President Jalali spoke in favor and moved Version 2

Councilmember Johnson asked for clarification.

Bill Dermody, City Planner, responded to Johnson's question.

Councilmember Noecker spoke in support of Version 2.

Amended and laid over to April 17, 2024 for Final Adoption

5 -

Yea:

Councilmember Noecker, Councilmember Jalali, Councilmember Yang,

Councilmember Bowie and Councilmember Johnson

Nay:

2 - Councilmember Kim and Councilmember Jost

Absent:

First Reading

Amending Chapter 293 of the Legislative Code to allow certain events to

obtain one amplified sound permit for multiple days.

Ord 24-10

Councilmember Noecker spoke in favor and moved Version 2. Approved 5-0.

Angie Wiese, Director of Safety and Inspections, gave a staff report and answered

councilmember questions.

Amended and laid over to April 17, 2024 for Second Reading

5 -

Yea:

Councilmember Noecker, Councilmember Jalali, Councilmember Yang,

Councilmember Bowie and Councilmember Johnson

Nay:

2 - Councilmember Kim and Councilmember Jost

Absent:

PUBLIC HEARINGS

Live testimony is limited to two minutes for each person. See below for optional ways

to testify.

Granting the application of Robert Anderson et. al to rezone property at 964

Payne Avenue from H2 residential to B2 community business and amending

Chapter 60 of the Legislative Code pertaining to the zoning map.

Ord 24-12

Robert Anderson, applicant, spoke during the public hearing and answered

councilmember questions.

Councilmember Yang moved to close the public hearing.

Laid over to April 17, 2024 for Final Adoption

5 -

Yea:

Councilmember Noecker, Councilmember Jalali, Councilmember Yang,

Councilmember Bowie and Councilmember Johnson

Nay:

2 - Councilmember Kim and Councilmember Jost

Absent:

FOR DISCUSSION

Honoring the life of Col. Moua Sue and proclaiming Monday, February 5, 2024,

as Col. Moua Sue Day in the City of Saint Paul.

RES 24-540

Councilmember Yang read from the resolution, spoke in favor, and moved approval.

Teng Moua, relative of Col. Moua Sue, gave remarks.

Adopted

5 -

Yea:

Councilmember Noecker, Councilmember Jalali, Councilmember Yang,

Councilmember Bowie and Councilmember Johnson

Nay:

2 - Councilmember Kim and Councilmember Jost

Absent:

PUBLIC HEARINGS

Live testimony is limited to two minutes for each person. See below for optional ways

to testify.

Considering the appeal of Snelling-Midway Redevelopment, LLC to the

Planning Commission decisions for a proposed development on property at

1566 University Avenue West.

APC 24-1

Kady Dadlez, City Planner, gave a staff report and answered councilmember

questions.

Councilmember Bowie moved the motion of intent as follows:

Appeal of Variance 3 be granted with the following conditions:

1. Final plans approved by the Zoning Administrator for this use shall be in substantial

compliance with the plans submitted and approved as part of this application.

2. The United Village Final Plat shall be approved by the City Council and recorded

with the county recorder and/or registrar of titles.

3. The driveway shall be for one-way westbound traffic only. Signage shall be installed

indicating that no parking is permitted in the driveway and that the driveway is for

check-in/check-out, pick-up/drop-off, and valet only. Signage shall indicate stopping in

the bypass lane is prohibited.

4. The driveway shall be for passenger vehicles only as the site design cannot

accommodate turning movements for larger vehicles.

5. There shall be a direct pedestrian connection between the sidewalk along University

Avenue and the primary hotel entrance. The connection shall be reviewed and

approved by Public Works.

6. There shall be a landscape buffer between the sidewalk along University Avenue

and the driveway.

7. There shall be a sidewalk width of 18’ along University Avenue.

8. The owner/operator is solely responsible for ensuring the driveway operates in a safe

manner for all users and does not result in adverse impacts to the public road system.

If the owner/operator is unable to manage the driveway in a safe manner that avoids

adverse impacts to the public road system the City reserves the right to require closure

of the driveway access points at the cost of the owner/operator. The owner/operator

must at all times maintain an operating plan for the driveway and must provide it to the

City upon request. This initial plan must be reviewed and approved by the Public

Works Traffic Engineer during site plan review. Specifics to be addressed shall

include: 1) document protocols, enforcement, and signage to limit the driveway to

passenger vehicles, to manage the bypass lane, to prohibit parking and ultimately to

assure no adverse impacts to the public road system; 2) quantify driveway use,

frequency, volume, and peak times, etc.; 3) document how Metro Mobility, delivery

vehicles, limousines, buses etc. will be accommodated and serve the site without

adversely impacting the public road system.

Appeal of Variance 5 be granted to remove Condition 5.

Appeal of Variance 6 be granted to remove Condition 6.

Motion of intent is that the appeal be granted with conditions.

5 -

Yea:

Councilmember Noecker, Councilmember Jalali, Councilmember Yang,

Councilmember Bowie and Councilmember Johnson

Nay:

2 - Councilmember Kim and Councilmember Jost

Absent:

Authorizing the Office of Financial Empowerment to accept grant funds from

the Saint Paul and Minnesota Foundation, and to amend the financing and

spending plan, in the amount of $38,250, for guaranteed income payments.

RES PH 24-50

Councilmember Bowie moved approval.

Adopted

5 -

Yea:

Councilmember Noecker, Councilmember Jalali, Councilmember Yang,

Councilmember Bowie and Councilmember Johnson

Nay:

2 - Councilmember Kim and Councilmember Jost

Absent:

Approving the application of University of St. Thomas, Aaron Fimon, Public

Safety Manager, for a sound level variance in order to present amplified sound

on May 4, 2024 at 2115 Summit Avenue, University of St. Thomas,

O’Shaugnessy Stadium.

RES PH 24-72

Councilmember Jalali moved approval.

Adopted

5 -

Yea:

Councilmember Noecker, Councilmember Jalali, Councilmember Yang,

Councilmember Bowie and Councilmember Johnson

Nay:

2 - Councilmember Kim and Councilmember Jost

Absent:

Approving the application of WestSide Boosters Youth Athletics for a sound

level variance in order to present amplified sound on Saturday, May 4, 2024 at

179 Robie Street.

RES PH 24-73

Councilmember Noecker moved approval.

Adopted

5 -

Yea:

Councilmember Noecker, Councilmember Jalali, Councilmember Yang,

Councilmember Bowie and Councilmember Johnson

Nay:

2 - Councilmember Kim and Councilmember Jost

Absent:

Authorizing the City, on behalf of the Police Department (“SPPD”), to accept

and amend the 2024 Special Fund Budget for a Youth Intervention Programs

Grant from the Minnesota Department of Public Safety (DPS).

RES PH 24-74

Councilmember Johnson moved approval.

Adopted

5 -

Yea:

Councilmember Noecker, Councilmember Jalali, Councilmember Yang,

Councilmember Bowie and Councilmember Johnson

Nay:

2 - Councilmember Kim and Councilmember Jost

Absent:

Amending the financing and spending plans in the Department of Public

Works in the amount of $35,000 for planned expenses related to the Shared

Micro-mobility System.

RES PH 24-75

RES PH 24-77

RES PH 24-78

Councilmember Yang moved approval.

Adopted

5 -

Yea:

Councilmember Noecker, Councilmember Jalali, Councilmember Yang,

Councilmember Bowie and Councilmember Johnson

Nay:

2 - Councilmember Kim and Councilmember Jost

Absent:

Authorizing the City's sponsorship of a Minnesota Investment Fund application

by Simpli-Fi Automation Inc. for a project proposed at 370 Wabasha Street

North (District 17, Ward 2).

Councilmember Noecker moved approval.

Adopted

5 -

Yea:

Councilmember Noecker, Councilmember Jalali, Councilmember Yang,

Councilmember Bowie and Councilmember Johnson

Nay:

2 - Councilmember Kim and Councilmember Jost

Absent:

Approving a budget amendment allocating $27,550 for a geothermal feasibility

study at the Como Hamline Avenue campus.

Councilmember Noecker moved approval.

Adopted

5 -

Yea:

Councilmember Noecker, Councilmember Jalali, Councilmember Yang,

Councilmember Bowie and Councilmember Johnson

Nay:

2 - Councilmember Kim and Councilmember Jost

Absent:

LEGISLATIVE HEARING DISCUSSION ITEM

Appeal of Lakeisha Lee to a Correction Notice-Reinspection Complaint (which

RLH VO 24-9

includes condemnation) at 273 COTTAGE AVENUE WEST. (Public hearing

closed and laid over from April 10, 2024)

Public hearing closed and laid over for one week, with the condition that the building

remain unoccupied.

Also in attendance: Lakeisha Lee, appellant

Marcia Moermond, Legislative Hearing Officer: This is an appeal of a condemnation

order, in this case because of a roof leak and other leakage, causing issues with wall

stability and electrical damage. The owner occupant had been experiencing this get

worse in slow motion. They turned it into a rental property and tried to use the funds

from that to make fixes, but the fixes are beyond what is doable with a modest income

from a rental. A lot of life circumstances have converged as well to make this situation

almost intractable. We talked in Legislative Hearing and again earlier today. She does

not contest the condemnation. She's not looking for an extension. The house was to

be vacated last Friday and it was vacant when inspectors were there yesterday. What

remains are questions about public policy that she has, and she also wants to share

her experience. I just wanted to give that background before I turn it over to her.

Lakeisha Lee: I wanted to express, as a lifelong St Paul resident, that I don’t want to

leave. I want you to know what is happening. My house has been condemned because

of storms. I had insurance to cover the repairs, but my claims have been denied. My

parents live within a mile. My neighbors had insurance claims approved, but my

insurance claim was not approved as a single black mom. I have 3 kids. The health

issues associated with the unsafe living conditions have also affected us, such as with

asthma. I've been through counseling and gotten help from different groups. I help

advocate and support others. I'm a leader my community for supporting black women

and girls, and now turning and looking for support. I'm getting rejected and declined.

Whatever resources are there to help are not working for me. This has been a problem

for the last 5 years. I'm working hard to sell the house and start anew. We're couch

hopping now. My parents live within a mile. We're there. My son's dad has housing

assistance so he's able to add him. Me and my kids can't be there though unless we're

added on, so it's keeping our family apart. It's hard for the kids to finish school. It's

hard for me to have stability, including with employment. I just want you all to know

how tough it is.

Council President Jalali: Can you tell us what repairs are still needed, what's the status

of them, and what is your ask for us? Is it more time?

Lee: I want to get this house out of a place of condemnation. I was looking for

resources for the roof and electric work. I started with an electrical quote route, and

then there was a grand total including what I was also quoted for the roof. I've had

some insurance claims so I know that there've been quotes for that, and I've been told

it's a cost of about $20,000. I've contacted the emergency loan program. I gave them

the necessary information. I let them know of the things that were needed. They said

I'd be reached out to, but I haven't heard back. I know this might not be the exact

space to say I need more time, but I need more time. I don't know what the

opportunities there are, but I just want to make sure you guys are aware of what's

happening. I've reached out to Abdihamid (Ward 5 Legislative Aide) and left a

voicemail about getting some helpful resources.

Jalali: So, there's the roof and electrical work. Was there something else? I want to

know what's needed to get this up to code.

Lee: The electrical and the roof are the two main things. There's some other things like

a stairs railing that I would also need assistance with.

Councilmember Noecker moved to close the public hearing. Approved 5-0.

Noecker: Thank you for testifying today, Lee. I appreciate you sharing your experience.

I support Moermond's recommendation of denying the appeal, because the home does

seem unfit for human habitation. If walls and floors and roofs are unstable, it is not

safe to live in. I think the Ward 5 office can help you get the resources you need, and I

am happy to help as well. That needs to be done from a place where you are safe,

though. I would move to support Moermond's recommendation. I know if your

councilmember was here right now, she would very much want to help.

Councilmember Bowie: I'm hearing from Lee a request for more time, and that she has

done her due diligence in looking for assistance. I also heard mentioned that the last

case scenario would be to just outright sell it. So if you can just clarify what is the cost

value of the conditions?

Moermond: The roof and the electrical systems are compromised and need fixing. We

don't know how much other damage there is. The water damage could be much more

extensive than what's currently understood. If I were to guess, hearing that it's between

$25,000 and $50,000 with what we know, it could be much worse after finding out

everything that needs fixing. In terms of an ask for time, Lee and I discussed this in

the hall. The questions to Council are: "Should the house be condemned as unfit for

human habitation?" and "When is the day for it to be vacated?" This case was created

because it was an emergency unsafe circumstance, and the house is vacated already.

Timing of being emptied doesn't really play there. The bigger time question that will

probably be forthcoming to Council has to do with it being referred to the Registered

Vacant Building Program, and its associated fees. We talked a little bit about that

process and how it is also appealable. That's all coming down the line later.

Jalali: I have some concerns. I don’t want the appellant in unsafe housing. However, I

want to balance that with a plan for improving the property. I want them connecting to

the Ward 5 council office. Does condemnation prevent City resources from being used

to help? I don’t want to cut off that help.

Moermond: I don’t know where rental rehabilitation assistance would come into play

with this vacate order. I know that needs to be asked. I know this is a complex

situation with complex needs (financial, mortgage, family, etc). I think this will require

the staffing that a ward office could pull together.

Jalali: I'm not comfortable approving this without a clear plan. Our Ward 5

councilmember and her staff are not here. I think the recommendation from Noecker

makes sense, but I want there to be clarity on a plan. I want Lee to be connected with

someone from Ward 5 before we vote. I welcome other thoughts, though. Is a layover

an option?

Councilmember Johnson: Has Ward 5 been briefed on this?

Moermond: I talked with Legislative Aide Abdihamid Badri for about a half hour. He is

looking into resources. He was also present for our meeting in the hallway earlier

today. The concern right now is that the building be empty while these resources are

discussed.

Johnson: I share Jalali's sentiments. My legislative aide is available to help also. I'd be

willing to lay over for a week if that's an option.

Jalali: I would support Noecker’s motion if we had a plan in place. If we could wait a

week to make that plan, I would prefer that.

Noecker: My concern is that no one be in danger. I support having a plan. I thought we

needed to get this done today to keep the building empty to avoid anyone being in

danger.

Moermond: If you wish to lay this over, I ask that you do so with the condition that the

house continue to be vacant and unoccupied.

Noecker: I would like to move a layover with that condition.

Councilmember Yang: I have two questions. First, when is the deadline for the repairs?

Second, how would laying it over and keeping it empty be different than condemnation?

Moermond: I'll answer your second question first. The resolution before you says that

Council would deny the appeal. That's my recommendaton. In the body of the materials

connected to the resolution, you will see that I made a finding that an emergency

decision needed to be made. This happens sometimes when a property is condemned

and we don't want to leave the matter as an unknown for too long. Situations involving

kids can have this happen. You as the Council can disagree with that finding I made.

The appellant has said she agrees that conditions do merit condemnation as unfit for

human habitation. Regarding a plan to fix the house, I think that's the next stage. My

immediate concern is for the appellant and her family to have stable housing. There is

a lot involved with financially planning and deciding what to do. We need housing

counselors and people with good bank backgrounds to help.

Bowie: I support extending this to next week until Councilmember Kim is here. This

relates to a previous discussion we had in Organizational Committee about affordable

housing, and we can do good work there. I won’t be here for a vote next week, but I

definitely think we should be proactive. I don’t feel comfortable voting today. I don’t

want to walk Lee into the condemnation program with a repair costing upwards of

$50,000 and walk her into a cycle of debt with additional $5,000 bills annually. It

sounds like she’s trying to figure this out, and staff can continue working on this. I

don’t have an aide, but can work with the Ward 5 and 7 aides to find organizations

that can help.

Jalali: To clarify things, Councilmember Noecker withdraws her motion of approval and

instead moves to lay over for one week, on condition that the house remain vacant.

The Ward 5 office needs to take responsibility for supporting Lee as a constituent. We

all can be as helpful as we want to be, but they should be the point people on this.

Public hearing closed and laid over to April 17, 2024 (with condition that

building remain unoccupied)

5 -

Yea:

Councilmember Noecker, Councilmember Jalali, Councilmember Yang,

Councilmember Bowie and Councilmember Johnson

Nay:

2 - Councilmember Kim and Councilmember Jost

Absent:

LEGISLATIVE HEARING CONSENT AGENDA

Items listed under the Consent Agenda will receive a combined public hearing and be

enacted by one motion with no separate discussion. Items may be removed from the

Consent Agenda for a separate public hearing and discussion if desired.

Approval of the Consent Agenda

Councilmember Johnson moved approval.

Legislative Hearing Consent Agenda adopted as amended

5 -

Yea:

Councilmember Noecker, Councilmember Jalali, Councilmember Yang,

Councilmember Bowie and Councilmember Johnson

Nay:

2 - Councilmember Kim and Councilmember Jost

Absent:

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