15 West Kellogg Blvd.  
Saint Paul, MN 55102  
City of Saint Paul  
Meeting Minutes - Action Only  
Legislative Hearings  
Marcia Moermond, Legislative Hearing Officer  
Mai Vang, Hearing Coordinator  
Joanna Zimny, Executive Assistant  
651-266-8585  
Tuesday, July 18, 2023  
9:00 AM  
Room 330 City Hall & Court House/Remote  
9:00 a.m. Hearings  
Special Tax Assessments  
Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for property at 16 DOUGLAS  
STREET. (File No. J2322A, Assessment No. 238528)  
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RLH TA 23-247  
Noecker  
Sponsors:  
Approve the assessment.  
Referred to the City Council due back on 8/2/2023  
Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for property at 521 EDMUND  
AVENUE. (File No. J2324A, Assessment No. 238531)  
RLH TA 23-281  
Balenger  
Sponsors:  
Approve the assessment (noting it will be paid by contractor).  
Referred to the City Council due back on 8/23/2023  
10:00 a.m. Hearings  
Special Tax Assessments  
Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for property at 340 LAWSON  
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AVENUE EAST. (File No. J2309E, Assessment No. 238311) (Legislative  
Hearing on July 18, 2023)  
Brendmoen  
Sponsors:  
Delete the assessment.  
Ka Vang, owner, appeared via phone  
Chou Zang Her, owner, appeared via phone  
Mai Vang interpreted  
Moermond: Supervisor Martin and I have had a chance to look at the record, including  
all 8 assessments out there for Excessive Consumption. 2 have already been levied.  
Ms. Martin audited these proposed assessments and will give her report.  
Staff update by Supervisor Lisa Martin: there were 8 Excessive Consumptions many  
without photos, so no evidence to uphold those Excessive Consumption billls. 2 have  
been paid, so we’d recommend leaving those ones paid and delete the remaining  
Excessive Consumption fees and have them get the project done as soon as they can.  
Moermond: so there were photos for the first two Excessive Consumptions they did  
pay, and none for the rest?  
Martin: correct.  
Moermond: the one in front of us today will be deleted. You may receive others; our  
intention is to delete all those forthcoming assessments.  
Her: we are having a difficult time with our insurance but we did finally get an adjuster  
out. They did pay us $10,000. We haven’t received it yet, and don’t know when they will  
come fix it.  
Moermond: Ms. Martin, given the situation with the insurance company and contractor,  
what is your enforcement perspective on this?  
Martin: I think we can recheck October 1. It is just the one post.  
Her: I don’t know when they will get it done. It may be November or later.  
Moermond: if the work isn’t done, how will your folks communicate with the Vangs  
about what comes next?  
Martin: typically, we would issue an Excessive Consumption.  
Her: I cannot guarantee when they will come out, it is up to the contractor. At that time  
when I went to cut the grass and they (the party who drove their car through the  
property and into the deck). I was there and nearly hit.  
Moermond: could you put on your calendar October 1 an inspector will be coming? If it  
isn’t done, reach out to Mai Vang and let her know the status of things with the  
insurance company and contractor, so she can email Lisa Martin and her team so they  
have that information.  
Mai Vang: I advised him that once he receives payment he should begin looking for  
contractors.  
Moermond: we have a plan. The two assessments that went through will stand; we have  
photographic evidence. The other six will be deleted, which includes this one today.  
Referred to the City Council due back on 7/19/2023  
Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for property at 1020  
AURORA AVENUE. (File No. J2309E, Assessment No. 238311) (Legislative  
Hearing on July 18, 2023)  
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Balenger  
Sponsors:  
Approve the assessment.  
Ron Becker, o/b/o owner, appeared via phone  
[Moermond gives background of appeals process]  
Staff report by Supervisor Lisa Martin: a Vehicle Abatement Order was sent back on  
November 8, 2022 for a white Mazda with many violations. Compliance date of  
November 17. Issued an Excessive Consumption for noncompliance. Rechecked  
November 17, wasn’t removed. No compliance until February 13, 2023. Four total  
Excessive Consumptions sent. There was a tow order issued eventually. Total  
proposed assessment of $159. There is some history, 7 garbage complaints in 2023.  
Becker: it took us six months through the court. Mr. Brown is still homebound with  
health issues, his tenants didn’t pay and he had to evict through the courts. We started  
with an attorney last October. The end was May 23 when the sheriff was able to  
physically remove them. The attorney said we couldn’t touch the things for 28 days.  
We couldn’t do anything. As soon as we were clear of those 28 days, we’ve sold and  
closed on it and there are new owners there.  
When I speak with my client he asks why when the tenants are committing crimes,  
one court says we can’t do anything and the other says we’re going to fine you for the  
actions of the person illegally living there. It is a confusing and hard place for a  
landlord to be, when one department gives one order and another a different one. I was  
trying to communicate the entire time with the Fire inspector, I thought I was being in  
contact with everyone, but it was only that department. I asked the tenant to remove  
the car and he told me he would. Then he threatened me when I told him I was going to  
have it towed. If I call the police there used to be a way to have a manger’s tow but I  
was told that you can’t do that. They told me to tow it to the street and leave it there. I  
told them I wasn’t going to do that. I called several tow companies who told me I  
needed an order from the City, and I wasn’t able to do it. Enough excuses from me, is  
there anything I can do now? When we closed last week Mr. Brown was assessed  
several things at closing to be paid for, I don’t want the new owner to be assessed.  
Outside of paying is there any leeway for me? Any way to have someone take the car  
without title?  
Moermond: you’re talking about a manager’s tow and a pending assessment at the  
property at time of closing. I assume this was escrowed. I see three pending ones.  
This one, then a property cleanup, and a boarding? Ms. Martin, you deal with the St.  
Paul Police Department on manager tow issues and abandoned vehicles. Certainly this  
appeared inoperable, it was missing front tires.  
Martin: usually if the police find something in that condition they would consider it  
dangerous and tow it right away. To have it there that long is not very well maintained.  
Becker: I didn’t get any of the letters from the City I didn’t get until closing.  
Moermond: they were with Mr. Brown, who did receive legal notice. I guess I am  
struggling with how taxpayers at large should be responsible for removing a junk  
vehicle from private property. Responsibilities lies with the owner of the property and  
reaching out to the inspector.  
Becker: it ultimately lies with the tenant.  
Moermond: it is the private property owner who has a contract with the tenant. Abating  
nuisances have property taxes attached to them, and that is all about the owner.  
Becker: right, I got it. Should I get rid of the car? Pay those assessments? Should I  
do something? Can you email whatever is owed and I will pay that. I can work on  
getting the car out of there soon.  
Moermond: Ms. Martin, I am looking at a file a tow order was issued February 13. Did  
the St. Paul Police Department tow it?  
Martin: I have no idea, I never got anything back. It could still be sitting out there.  
Becker: there was a letter from the head of the Department, Angie Wiese, cancelling  
that tow.  
Moermond: that doesn’t sound like something she would do. Angie isn’t in charge of  
the police. Ms. Martin, can you follow up? If that vehicle is still there, it can be  
removed.  
Becker: I can find someone who can take it as a junk car, I wasn’t comfortable doing  
that.  
Moermond: I can’t speak to what your attorney told you. Ms. Martin, I’m surprised Ms.  
Wiese would have put a hold on tow.  
Becker: I have the email from Angie from June 6.  
Moermond: and the writ of recovery must have a deadline. Did you share that time with  
her?  
Becker: I did in a previous email to her.  
Moermond: I’m not sure how much I would ask the Council take that into account  
since the hold was June and the Excessive Consumption was January, with orders first  
in November. I’m kind of in a space where no, and Ms. Martin will follow up with Ms.  
Wiese about the writ of recovery. Please send a follow up email to be added to the  
record. We’ll have Joanna Zimny send the link to pay the assessments online.  
Referred to the City Council due back on 7/19/2023  
Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for property at 1322  
ELEANOR AVENUE. (File No. J2325A, Assessment No. 238533)  
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RLH TA 23-268  
RLH TA 23-269  
RLH TA 23-274  
Tolbert  
Sponsors:  
Delete the assessment.  
Referred to the City Council due back on 8/23/2023  
Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for property at 1777  
RANDOLPH AVENUE. (File No. J2325A, Assessment No. 238533)  
Tolbert  
Sponsors:  
Delete the assessment.  
Referred to the City Council due back on 8/23/2023  
Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for property at 584  
SNELLING AVENUE SOUTH. (File No. J2325A, Assessment No. 238533)  
Tolbert  
Sponsors:  
Delete the assessment.  
Referred to the City Council due back on 8/23/2023  
Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for property at 1921 ST.  
ANTHONY AVENUE. (File No. J2325A, Assessment No. 238533)  
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RLH TA 23-280  
Jalali  
Sponsors:  
Approve the assessment.  
Referred to the City Council due back on 8/23/2023  
Review Request of Stella Nwaiwu for the Appealed Special Tax Assessment  
for Property at 931 and 933 UNIVERSITY AVENUE WEST. (File No. J2318A,  
Assessment No. 238518). (Adopted by Council June 7, 2023).  
Balenger  
Sponsors:  
Reduce assessment from $322 to $161. (CPH 8/9)  
Received and Filed  
Special Tax Assessments-ROLLS  
Ratifying the assessments for Property Clean Up services during April 19 to  
28, 2023. (File No. J2324A, Assessment No. 238531)  
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RLH AR 23-59  
Brendmoen  
Sponsors:  
Referred to the City Council due back on 8/23/2023  
Ratifying the assessments for Property Clean Up services during May 1 to 11,  
2023. (File No. J2325A, Assessment No. 238533)  
RLH AR 23-60  
Brendmoen  
Sponsors:  
Referred to the City Council due back on 8/23/2023  
11:00 a.m. Hearings  
Correction Orders  
Appeal of Joseph Zimlich, Jr. to a Correction Notice at 880 ROSE AVENUE  
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RLH CO 23-7  
EAST.  
Yang  
Sponsors:  
Grant to September 1, 2023 for compliance.  
Referred to the City Council due back on 8/2/2023  
Making Finding on Nuisance Abatements  
Making finding on the appealed nuisance abatement ordered for 643 EARL  
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STREET in Council File RLH SAO 23-3. (Legislative Hearing on July 18,  
2023)  
Prince  
Sponsors:  
Nuisance is not abated and matter referred to DSI for potential additional enforcement.  
Minutes pending.  
Referred to the City Council due back on 7/19/2023  
Making finding on the appealed nuisance abatement ordered for 1009  
FULLER AVENUE in Council File RLH SAO 23-28.  
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Balenger  
Sponsors:  
Refer back to LH July 25, 2023 at 11 am.  
Referred to the City Council due back on 7/26/2023  
1:00 p.m. Hearings  
Vacant Building Registrations  
Appeal of Boon Lor to a Vacant Building Registration Requirement at 1811  
MONTANA AVENUE EAST.  
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RLH VBR  
23-37  
Yang  
Sponsors:  
Waive the VB fee through October 25, 2023.  
Referred to the City Council due back on 8/2/2023  
Appeal of Akeem Lamina to a Vacant Building Registration Notice at 2076  
MARGARET STREET.  
RLH VBR  
23-38  
Prince  
Sponsors:  
Grant the appeal and release the property from the VB program.  
Referred to the City Council due back on 8/9/2023  
Appeal of Atnafu Yeshidagne to a Vacant Building Registration Requirement  
at 506 and 510 SNELLING AVENUE NORTH.  
RLH VBR  
23-42  
Jalali  
Sponsors:  
Grant the appeal and release the property from the VB program.  
Referred to the City Council due back on 8/2/2023  
1:30 p.m. Hearings  
Orders To Vacate - Fire Certificate of Occupancy  
Appeal of Kamil Roowala and Muhammad Jiwa to a Revocation of Fire  
Certificate of Occupancy and Order to Vacate at 1351 THIRD STREET  
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RLH VO 23-29  
EAST.  
Prince  
Sponsors:  
Grant to September 1, 2023 for compliance with the June 21, 2023 orders.  
Referred to the City Council due back on 8/2/2023  
2:00 p.m. Hearings  
Fire Certificates of Occupancy  
Appeal of Albert Vierling to a Correction Notice-Reinspection Complaint (which  
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includes condemnation) at 20 EXCHANGE STREET EAST, APARTMENT  
B104.  
Noecker  
Sponsors:  
Grant to July 28, 2023 for compliance with the June 27, 2023 orders.  
(minutes pending)  
Referred to the City Council due back on 7/26/2023