15 West Kellogg Blvd.  
Saint Paul, MN 55102  
City of Saint Paul  
Minutes - Final  
Legislative Hearings  
Marcia Moermond, Legislative Hearing Officer  
Mai Vang, Hearing Coordinator  
Joanna Zimny, Executive Assistant  
651-266-8585  
Tuesday, November 4, 2025  
9:00 AM  
Room 330 City Hall & Court House/Remote  
9:00 a.m. Hearings  
Special Tax Assessments  
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Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for property at 1578  
BURG AVENUE. (File No. J2513TW, Assessment No. 258571) (To refer  
to November 4, 2025 Legislative Hearing)  
Johnson  
Sponsors:  
Rescheduled to March 24, 2026 at 9 am (due to Paulie transition).  
Laid Over to the Legislative Hearings due back on 3/24/2026  
Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for property at 762  
CAPITOL HEIGHTS. (File No. J2526R, Assessment No. 258570) (Refer  
to November 4, 2025 Legislative Hearing)  
Bowie  
Sponsors:  
Rescheduled to March 24, 2026 at 9 am (due to Paulie transition).  
Laid Over to the Legislative Hearings due back on 3/24/2026  
Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for property at 724  
CASE AVENUE. (File No. J2512E, Assessment No. 258322) (To refer  
to November 4, 2025 Legislative Hearing; Public hearing continued to  
January 14, 2026)  
Yang  
Sponsors:  
Rescheduled to March 3, 2026 at 9 am (due to Paulie transition).  
Laid Over to the Legislative Hearings due back on 3/3/2026  
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Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for property at 828  
ENGLEWOOD AVENUE. (File No. J2526R, Assessment No. 258570)  
(Refer to November 4, 2025 Legislative Hearing)  
Bowie  
Sponsors:  
Rescheduled to April 21, 2026 at 9 am (due to Paulie transition).  
Laid Over to the Legislative Hearings due back on 4/21/2026  
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Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for property at 947  
FREMONT AVENUE. (File No. J2513TW, Assessment No. 258571) (To  
refer to November 4, 2025 Legislative Hearing)  
Johnson  
Sponsors:  
Rescheduled to March 24, 2026 at 9 am (due to Paulie transition).  
Laid Over to the Legislative Hearings due back on 3/24/2026  
Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for property at 120  
LAWSON AVENUE WEST. (File No. J2513TW, Assessment No.  
258571) (To refer to November 4, 2025 Legislative Hearing)  
Kim  
Sponsors:  
Rescheduled to March 24, 2026 at 9 am (due to Paulie transition).  
Laid Over to the Legislative Hearings due back on 3/24/2026  
Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for property at 583  
MARSHALL AVENUE. (File No. J2526R, Assessment No. 258570)  
(Refer to November 4, 2025 Legislative Hearing)  
Bowie  
Sponsors:  
Rescheduled to April 7, 2026 at 9 am (due to Paulie transition).  
Laid Over to the Legislative Hearings due back on 4/7/2026  
Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for property at 580  
MINNEHAHA AVENUE EAST. (File No. J2527R1, Assessment No.  
258601)  
Johnson  
Sponsors:  
Rescheduled to April 7, 2026 at 9 am (due to Paulie transition).  
Laid Over to the Legislative Hearings due back on 4/7/2026  
10:00 a.m. Hearings  
Special Tax Assessments  
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Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for property at 2170  
HIGHWOOD AVENUE. (File No. J2511E1, Assessment No. 258325)  
Johnson  
Sponsors:  
Layover to LH April 7, 2026 at 10 am (due to Paulie transition).  
Laid Over to the Legislative Hearings due back on 4/7/2026  
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Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for property at 2170  
HIGHWOOD AVENUE. (File No. J2512E1, Assessment No. 258326)  
Johnson  
Sponsors:  
Layover to LH April 7, 2026 at 10 am (due to Paulie transition).  
Laid Over to the Legislative Hearings due back on 4/7/2026  
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Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for property at 1760  
WILSON AVENUE. (File No. J2525R1, Assessment No. 258589) (To  
refer back to November 4, 2025 Legislative Hearing)  
Johnson  
Sponsors:  
Layover to LH February 3, 2026 at 10 am (due to Paulie transition).  
Laid Over to the Legislative Hearings due back on 2/3/2026  
11:00 a.m. Hearings  
Making Finding on Nuisance Abatements  
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Making finding on the appealed nuisance abatement ordered for 2198  
TILSEN AVENUE in Council File RLH SAO 25-49.  
Yang  
Sponsors:  
The nuisance is abated and the matter resolved.  
No one appeared  
Moermond: this is now below 36”?  
Supervisor Lisa Martin: that is correct.  
Moermond: property is now in compliance and the matter resolved.  
Referred to the City Council due back on 11/12/2025  
Correction Orders  
RLH CO 25-12  
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Appeal of Patrick O'Neill, Jr. Attorney for Alford S. Karayusuf, to a  
Correction Order at 1164 SUMMIT AVENUE.  
Noecker  
Sponsors:  
Grant the appeal.  
Patrick O’Neill, attorney at Larson King, appeared  
Mohamed Ibrahim, attorney with Larson King, appeared  
Alford Karayusuf, owner, appeared  
[Moermond gives background of appeals process]  
Staff report by Supervisor Lisa Martin: correction notice was issued regarding a  
drainage issue, to immediately disconnect the drainage tube in the retaining wall as  
water cannot be discharged onto the sidewalk.  
O’Neill: the property owner does have a statement. He feels strongly about the issue.  
When he bought the house it was hooked up to the sanitary sewer, and the City had an  
effort to stop that. He was forced to change something that existed when he bought  
the house. We submitted a couple City Council letters, he felt he had to do it, they  
broke the pipe and filled it with cement. He complied and feels strongly, and we have  
the certification from the City on City letterhead. The theme is he’d never have done  
anything unless it was approved, since he was forced to do something in the first  
place. The City was told about his design to dig a trench with PVC pipe to his property  
line and out the retaining wall. The City personnel approved before, during construction  
in which he spent significant money, and then after. City says yes you can. He’s  
getting answers saying as long as you don’t go to the sanitary sewer.  
We have attachments to the first letter I wrote, asking them to tear up the notice,  
which they declared. And then I sent Ms. Vang a letter and a couple more exhibits. We  
had some questions about what precipitated this, why now, why this address? But the  
exhibits should have by email. We did also ask for a data practices request in a letter  
and we haven’t received an answer to that.  
Moermond: may be a while.  
O’Neill: can we even have a hearing without that information? When the sanitary sewer  
was changed. The sidewalk has an 8” trough next to the sidewalk. It drains to that, not  
onto the right-of-way and across the sidewalk. It looks to me like that was done later in  
time when perhaps the storm sewer was put in on the corner. It isn’t sitting well with a  
homeowner who has paid over $600,000 in taxes over the last 40 years. If it is changed  
on his dime again and floods his basement, can he go after the City for forcing him to  
change what they approved 30 years and has worked for 30 years?  
Moermond: I’ll jump in here. The 6 – 8” trough abutting the retaining wall is private  
property. A lot of property owners choose to do that so it doesn’t abut the property line  
and isn’t affected by sidewalk replacement and things like that. The City does get a  
fair number of complaints about runoff into the public right-of-way. Typically, it  
happens in the winter. With respect to the Certificate you have indicating you did the  
rain leader disconnect correctly, my understanding of this is you’d have someone go  
apply for a permit with a designed solution of how to disconnect your rain leader and  
re-engineer the flow. Someone had a permit to do that, it was signed off on, and a  
certificate was issued saying you’re in compliance. The same law exists now as existed  
then. Whatever determination they made they made, I assume, taking all of these  
things into account. There’s no way for me to look at that and say this old certificate  
wasn’t correct. I also assume the inspector didn’t have access to this. Why this  
address? It is typically a complaint. It also happens that if a neighbor gets a complaint  
about something but also treat neighboring properties with similar violations in a  
similar violation. It isn’t just neighbor A who may or may not be targeted for whatever  
reason, but everyone is treated the same. Whether that’s parking or garbage can  
placement.  
You have a certificate of compliance with the rain leader disconnect program. I’ll  
recommend Council grant the appeal. If you want to wait for that additional information-  
-?  
O’Neill: no, we don’t.  
Martin: just make sure it is salted and sanded.  
Karayusuf: I do, we have a service plus I keep salt on hand.  
O’Neill: thank you. I learned a long time ago to be quiet and get on the elevator.  
Referred to the City Council due back on 11/19/2025  
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RLH CO 25-14  
Appeal of William Acree to a Correction Order at 610 WESTERN  
AVENUE NORTH.  
Bowie  
Sponsors:  
Grant to December 1, 2025 for compliance.  
William Acree, owner, appeared via phone  
[Moermond gives background of appeals process]  
Staff report by Supervisor Lisa Martin: a Correction Notice was issued October 13,  
2025 saying that all vehicles must be correctly licensed, operable, secured from  
unlawful entry, and parked on an approved surface. Store in a garage, correct  
violations, or remove. It also states that all vehicles, boats, and trailers on the property  
must have current tabs, be registered to the property, fully operational, cannot be  
missing vital parts or open to entry and be parked on an approved surface. Compliance  
date of October 22.  
Acree: I’m not asking for sympathy but I’ve had a lot of health issues going on with my  
family so I haven’t been in town a lot. I’ve been traveling to Chicago to my sister on  
hospice, I try to go every weekend. When I came back that weekend I drove back to  
check on the property and I met Mr. Allen Vang there and we talked about what I  
needed to do. I agree there were some without tabs. He called Richard Kedrowski, and  
he said no the plan was not submitted in order to do that. That’s where the issue came  
from. I know that I did that, and I tried to convey that to him as well and apparently it  
didn’t do any good. I said I’d go down and resubmit it. I went to planning on Friday to  
submit another plan. I tried to convey again to Richard that I had a parking plan for  
that—  
Moermond: I have that site plan in front of me.  
Acree: that’s been in place over 20 years. And not only that I have two plans. Again he  
called me that afternoon and said not only did he find an approved plan, he found two.  
One twenty years ago. I did that. That’s kind of where I end up being with that  
situation. Allen said Richard wanted to take over, I said that’s fine. In the meantime I  
checked everything and I did have some cabs that were open and some tires that were  
flat. I do have two boats there that I don’t use so I ended up putting them on Craigslist.  
It was bad timing because of the weather, they don’t want boats in the winter. I did get  
someone to take it away on Saturday. On Sunday he said he was coming back the  
next day to get the other boat and he called and said someone broke into his truck he  
used to tow the boat. I called him yesterday and didn’t get an answer. Hopefully that  
will be fixed and gone soon. I’m also a veteran so I called them in the last couple days  
doing the paperwork and finding titles so they would be gone. That’s more or less it.  
Moermond: it looks like you have vehicles stored throughout the yard, to be quite  
honest. I see the plans and the driveway was approved to be 10’ x 30’. I see parking  
allowed between the garages and abutting the alley.  
Martin: 10 x 30 ‘ with asphalt was what he was approved, and he installed 12’ x 77’. And  
the class 5 from 2023 that was approved hasn’t been maintained at all.  
Moermond: I see vehicles that do need to be moved, some brought into compliance.  
What I’d like to see are some specifics on what violations the vehicles have. A silver  
Chevy and a plate number lacking tabs.  
Martin: because there were so many vehicles we didn’t do it logistically. To be honest  
they’ve all been sitting here for so long I’m sure they’re not operable.  
Moermond: I do have information saying they’re registered to you to a Maplewood  
address, but they’re being stored at Western. If they were your tenant’s vehicles we  
may be having a slightly different conversation. This is a CN which means you get a  
deadline for compliance and if that deadline is blown the Department of Safety &  
Inspections would come forward with a stronger order. I agree on its face that there are  
violations there, I just want greater detail. That would give clear parameters about each  
of the vehicles and what isn’t ok. I’ll be honest if they aren’t registered there they  
shouldn’t be there. That needs to be addressed.  
I think we can give a deadline of December 1. Everything has to be done. If they end  
up being towed the cost of the towing end up being billed to the property and that’s not  
cheap. We’ll try to get that list before our letter goes out to you on Friday.  
I can easily see the class 5 hasn’t been maintained. It has to be mowed. As soon as  
you have to mow class 5 it is lawn, not class 5. You have some work to do. You’re  
using it as a parking lot, and it isn’t zoned as a parking lot.  
Acree: I’d like to take it to Council. I’ve owned that property over 20 years and I’ve  
never had a problem. Anytime you have class 5 I do cut the grass that grows up. I  
disagree with that. I would like the Council meeting to deal with that.  
Second, I have a boat in the garage. I have that much property there and a boat and  
trailer is what I use for maintenance on the property. I haven’t had a problem with that  
for 20 years, now all of a sudden it is an issue. I think it’s a more complicated problem  
than that. No one can even see it, there’s a 6-foot fence around the property. Now I’m  
dealing with something where it was okay and dealt with people way before Department  
of Safety & Inspections and it wasn’t an issue. The first inspector it wasn’t an issue, it  
came after he called whatever his name is, Richard Kedrowski, and Richard took over.  
I’m kind of feeling it is a vendetta because there’s no reason for this.  
Referred to the City Council due back on 11/19/2025  
2:00 p.m. Hearings  
Fire Certificates of Occupancy  
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RLH FCO  
25-54  
Appeal of Pat Ware to a Fire Inspection Report at 673 CHARLES  
AVENUE.  
Bowie  
Sponsors:  
Grant to December 5, 2025 for compliance.  
Pat Ware, property manager, appeared via phone  
[Moermond gives background of appeals process]  
Staff report by Supervisor Der Vue: this is a duplex, upper and lower. August 20, 2025  
our office received a complaint of water damage in upper unit along wall and ceiling.  
Inspector Standish confirmed the water damage with visible mold among other hazards  
including missing smoke alarms, deteriorated siding and missing door frame on front  
entry door. Correction orders issued. When an inspector responds to complaint and  
other deficiencies are observed they are able to issue other orders under chapter 34 to  
protect public safety and welfare and established minimum maintenance standards for  
buildings, both interior and exterior.  
Moermond: this appeal came in a long time ago, appeal came in September 2nd.  
Ware: first, I’ve been doing this for a while but my experience with the fire inspections  
is when a complaint is called the inspection is limited to the complaint with a possible  
call to owner or myself to talk about things. This complaint was about one item. Now,  
to address that the damage was no longer wet. It was repaired in June. Hole was fixed  
from inside the attic. That was old damage but no current leak. Number 1 and 3 were  
not issues that day. Smoke alarm, tenant had removed. It wasn’t there again today and  
we had to replace it today. The other things, if he’d called, everything on the list was in  
process painting done and siding and trim being replaced. I feel like they should be  
taken off the record and the only legitimate thing was the inspection for the water  
damage, it was previous damage that hadn’t yet been repaired. All of them have since  
been repaired as they were normally scheduled repairs, not in response to this  
complaint. My concern is that a small item that is a complaint causes an almost  
Certificate of Occupancy inspection and if that’s the case and these repairs cause us  
to not have an inspection for 3 years that’s great, but we’re getting excessive request  
for repairs and although I agree, I don’t see them as hazards.  
Moermond: why do you bring up hazard?  
Ware: because she said anything that appears to be a hazard.  
Moermond: I guess I’m confused, at all times the building should be in proper repair.  
The photos show evidence of water damage. You are saying the source was  
addressed, but there clearly hadn’t been abatement measures for the damage in the  
property and they were legitimate. They also don’t come with a date stamp of when the  
leaking occurred. A phone call is always nice. I would say also it isn’t always possible.  
I’m not thinking that’s a reason to grant the appeal. In terms of what is part of the  
record, it already is part of the public record. What we can do here is discuss whether  
it was a valid complaint and call and whether it is or isn’t justified. We can’t change the  
record. I look at the scope of this, and I see things that are issues but I don’t see  
them as property wide, they’re relatively confined. I’m not concurring on that count,  
though I understand where you’re coming from. As far as the smoke alarm, even if the  
alarm is removed by the tenant, responsibility does ultimately lie with the property  
owner, as you know. It sounds like it is just a matter of getting a reinspection done.  
Ware: if you look at the list you’ll see everything marked with the exception of the water  
damage and missing smoke alarm all has to do with work on the property. He did call  
me that day from the field and said nothing about anything but water damage and I told  
him it had been repaired, but the cosmetic piece hadn’t been done yet. I don’t feel it  
was fair to not have a conversation about why these things were happening. It is a  
huge list for someone to bother writing by hand especially.  
Moermond: your concerns are of record. Ms. Vue, how do you want to handle the  
inspection?  
Vue: the inspector can complete that inspection himself. I do have his schedule up if  
Ms. Ware would like to coordinate a date and time, we can do that.  
Ware: Thursday the 13th would work. 10:30 works with respect to the tenant.  
Vue: perfect.  
Moermond: I’ll send this to the Council with a deadline of December 5 in case  
something should come up you have time to address it.  
Referred to the City Council due back on 11/19/2025