15 West Kellogg Blvd.  
Saint Paul, MN 55102  
City of Saint Paul  
Minutes - Final  
Legislative Hearings  
Marcia Moermond, Legislative Hearing Officer  
Mai Vang, Hearing Coordinator  
Joanna Zimny, Executive Assistant  
legislativehearings@ci.stpaul.mn.us  
651-266-8585  
Thursday, December 18, 2025  
1:00 PM  
Room 330 City Hall & Court House/Remote  
1:00 p.m. Hearings  
Vehicle Abatement Orders  
RLH SAO 25-75  
1
Appeal of Rashad Turner to a Vehicle Abatement Order at 805  
MINNEHAHA AVENUE WEST.  
Bowie  
Sponsors:  
Grant to January 1, 2026 for removal of all vehicles from back yard. Allow 2 vehicles to  
park in area behind garage (abutting alley) and grant to April 1, 2026 for compliance  
(via removal or site plan approval).  
Rashad Turner, occupant, appeared via phone  
[Moermond gives background of appeals process]  
Moermond: are you an occupant, is Katelyn Fierst the owner, occupant.  
Turner: we all live here, she is the owner, but I’m the one who put the stuff back there.  
Staff report by Supervisor Lisa Martin: November 24, 2025 a Vehicle Abatement Order  
went to owner and occupant for 3 vehicles parked in the back yard, which is not an  
approved surface. Compliance date was for December 5, 2025.  
Turner: Inspector Vang explained everything so I have a good grasp of what is required.  
The unimproved surface, things like that. From our side, the previous owner here and  
the home next door had mentioned the lots being grandfathered for gravel. That was  
one question. The other part is now I understand we’re not allowed to be in the  
backyard, because it is winter and the gravel isn’t ok and we can’t install concrete or  
asphalt, if I moved the trailer and boat to the gravel area behind the garage—which is  
out of the backyard—would that suffice at least until spring?  
Moermond: you aren’t using the boat right now. The cargo trailer is being used for  
what?  
Turner: I usually have it connected to my truck. It is for my coffee trailer we have it out  
in the spring. Parked when we aren’t using it and it hasn’t been a problem. I only  
moved it there to free up the space on the side of the street. That can be moved, but  
the boat was put back there at the direction of my immediate neighbors who wanted it  
there.  
Moermond: why is the double garage not an option?  
Turner: we have an EV, and the charger is in there. We did look at trying to get the  
charger outside of the garage.  
Moermond: so that’s one vehicle. It is a double garage, is it just storage in the rest?  
Turner: the way the built the garage you’re probably losing 3 feet on each side due to  
shelving. The boat wouldn’t fit in there.  
Moermond: I don’t think your neighbor is in Code Enforcement, so I don’t think you  
were getting good advice there. Looking at an aerial photo of the site it doesn’t look to  
me it was set up as gravel parking. It doesn’t look like it was put in with a plan. With  
this type of coverage what does the department need?  
Martin: there needs to be a site plan filed and specifications that need to be met with  
setbacks. Go to second floor of 375 Jackson and they can help put together  
something for the spring.  
Moermond: you aren’t an owner of the property but you do own the vehicles?  
Turner: I think we may both be on the trailer, but the truck, yeah.  
Moermond: but the land title is Ms. Fierst only? Ramsey County taxation just has her.  
Turner: ok.  
Moermond: so any changes with the land have to have her name on the application. I  
can’t do a ton for you. We’ll give you to January 1 to get the vehicles out of the back  
yard. For the area behind the garage that abuts the alley, I can live with 2 vehicles  
being parked there through April 1 then the area has to be in compliance with local  
codes and approval and if it isn’t done you need to have those vehicles gone. They can  
come back once you have approvals. Cars need to be parked 4’ from the property line  
and the alley.  
Martin: just make sure the alley isn’t blocked in any way. Especially with that boat  
trailer there.  
Moermond: we’ll set you up with a Council Public Hearing January 14th for you to look  
for a different outcome if that’s what you want.  
Referred to the City Council due back on 1/7/2026