Ruchie: I keep so much water around for the plants.
Moermond: no, no. It isn’t enough. You don’t have time to get water, all you can do is
get out. Do not fight a fire if it were to happen. Now, I want to emphasize this, but this
is super clear this isn’t safe. What we’re talking about is putting a deadline on it that
you have to meet or you have to find different housing. Right now, I hear it isn’t safe
from the inspector. People die in homes that are hoarded as badly as this one is. I
want to keep you housed, but I’m balancing that against the safety issue. I personally
would have preferred having this conversation 2 months ago. We are here, you have
someone here helping you, but this is it. It gets done now or it gets closed down. What
is the plan moving forward?
Piper: I’m a housing worker. I have a relationship with the landlord. Right now what
we’ve been working on, Mark her brother has been helping her make progress. Janice
wants to leave where she’s at right now. We’re trying to find a place with better services
and some mental health services to check in weekly. We have an initial intake for an
ARMS worker in March. The landlord isn’t going to hold her to rent as long as we get it
cleaned out. She’s just not meeting the monthly income requirements. Luckily she has
a sizable pension kicking in this week. I have calls set up to move her into a couple of
different places. Then we can provide the income guarantees they need. We’re trying to
address both underlying causes, both mental health to check in more consistently.
We’re hoping in the next couple of weeks to get her into a new place anyway. Mark had
talked about hiring a crew to come in and deep clean everything. I’m trying to make
sure this doesn’t become a problem again and come up with a longer-term solution for
the things she cares about.
Moermond: from what I’m hearing, we’re looking at a relocation date you’d like to see
more like April 1?
Piper: yeah. Even March 15th if we can find a place.
Demarest: I understand and respect the situation. I spend 10 years as a firefighter and
been in units with content like this. All of the items are there to feed a fire. Buildings
are built with the understanding of normal items—a couch, a TV stand---you wouldn’t
survive any fire in there right now. Likely the building wouldn’t either. It wasn’t made for
that kind of a threat. That’s why we’re here.
Ruchie: it is an old building.
Moermond: I believe you the building is solid. I’m sure the walls are plaster, but it isn’t
the structure—if the fire doesn’t damage it the smoke will.
Ruchie: some of the windows are cracked.
Moermond: stop. I think you’re trying to convince me it isn’t as bad as it is. What do
we do now to make you as safe as possible before you land someplace else. That’s
my concern. Your safety here. I have seen too many people who transfer those items
into a storage space and end up paying exorbitant rent over multiple years where they
can’t pay it anymore and then everything is gone. This is a good point to cut ties with
what you don’t need and use that income.
Demarest: getting to the point where someone can get a stretcher through is important.
Ruchie: Travis did mention that. I’ve been working on widening it.